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Under her direction, SOS membership greatly increased and she became known as someone who definitely gets things done!
How is this being figured. The way I saw it, we went downhill in numbers after she became a player
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When you take a look at the "Get To Know ..." part, the latter.
She'll get my ballot, though. I've voted for screwier people than Chelene. She is the classical "protest vote" in the truest sense. Be honest. Could she really do a much worse job than Gray Davis or Arnold Schwarzenegger? Except the part about the potential for putting Barack Obama under citizens arrest for immigration violations, I mean.
Oh Lord, there's one like you in every crowd, isn't there? You have some crazy expectation about elected officials telling the truth. Look, Mr. Trustworthiness Uber Alles, if there is one profession that embraces Chelene's lack of commitment to substantive accuracy, she's just entered it.
This was my personal favorite: Her dynamic persona, along with her inspirational speaking style, have placed her in high demand at political rallies due to her ability to draw large crowds and motivate people into action.Last edited by DerailAmnesty.com; 07-06-2009, 09:46 PM.Comment
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Oh Christ! I forgot (slaps head)
Wasn't I reminding you of this just some days ago too?
Someone needs to slap the side of my head once a day to keep the canaries flying
Yes, but were they already acting screwy before you voted for them?She'll get my ballot, though. I've voted for screwier people than Chelene. She is the classical "protest vote" in the truest sense. Be honest. Could she really do a much worse job than Gray Davis or Arnold Schwarzenegger?Comment
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My question is if she does get elected, will she ban the state legislature when they refuse to obey her every whim?
I think I am going to have to practice my heckling skills.
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The potential is almost off the charts. Consider this: What if she declares a State of Emergency or Martial Law because of the presence of provocateurs and moles in California? What about the possibility that she might have Jim Gilchrist taken into custody and "questioned" by recent police hires from Guantanamo Bay, about his secret allegiance with IndyMedia?Last edited by DerailAmnesty.com; 07-06-2009, 10:37 PM.Comment
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I will force our out-of-touch legislature to impose fines and stop state funds to all sanctuary cities.
And if you don't get real cooperative, real fast, you can expect at least one of the following: A) The Governor has her staff start cranking out e-mails, with your name featured prominently, by the tens of thousands, and/or B) Arizona Patriot is moved out of his parents' home and into yours to assure there are no acts of disloyalty or betrayal.Last edited by DerailAmnesty.com; 07-06-2009, 11:13 PM.Comment
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The executive branch forcing the legislative branch. Gee; Why didn't the terminator, Gray Davis, or Pete Wilson think of that?
Hello Chelene.....The two branches are separate as in cannot be forced to do anything by the other. This is in the state constitution. Jeez! And you are in the Constitution Party?
This is another reason that many Californians don't vote or take the process seriously anymore. The Republicans don't field candidates that reflect the party's conservative ideals. The Democrats don't field candidates that practice democracy. And the Constitution Party has just fielded a candidate that doesn't want to practice the constitution.
Now the question is: Which party is going to end up running the worst candidate in that regard this election. Will the republicans pick a worse fitting candidate for the party than the Constitution party has? How about the Democrats? They have been picking from the liberal extreme so much that democracy is getting subverted, so will they take the cake this time?
In addition, which will be the most far out candidate of the race this cycle? Usually it's a close race between the greens and the peace and freedom party, but we may have a new front runner already.Last edited by AyatollahGondola; 07-07-2009, 09:47 PM.Comment
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A poster from another board wrote the following:
I think the key part of this statement is, "...if she can keep it together emotionally." Should a person that is emotionally unstable as Nightingale is (and many of here can attest to this personally) be seriously considered for a high government post?I am not a fan, but I give her credit for giving it a shot. She is running as an Independent, which I think is great. We need a third party to get relevant in a hurry. This is where it starts. That is if she can keep it together emotionally. I will be watching this with interest.... I said I am not a fan of hers.Comment
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Have any of you stepped up to the plate and tried to run for office? It's easy to point fingers and criticize others, while staying safe and not put yourself in that position. When you can come up with someone who fits all your ideals as a politician, you can then put them on your shoulders and yell raa raa raa. But at this point all the nay saying seems like sour grapes. Tearing down others to build yourself up doesn't bring you any higher, it just prevents anyone from succeeding. Try being a bigger person than that, we can all be bigger and better.Comment
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The issue is not about "bashing" people. Many of us have serious qualms about this candidate's qualifications, track record and personal character which causes us to question whether or not this candidate is the best person for the job. Besides, if she can't take the heat from us lowly nobodies, then she certainly won't be able to take it from the press should she ever field a viable candidacy.
This candidate burned a lot of people. To use a phrase from the prophet Hosea, she has sowed to the wind and now she is reaping the whirlwind.
So what will happen next? Will support or lack thereof for this candidate become another test of patriotism as the entire Ron Paul candidacy became on the board of the movement this candidate once led? If it does, then I will leave this movement forever. Because I will no longer belong to a movement that masks itself in patriotism, yet denies the right of conscience to members that do not support every idea in the movement. That is not patriotism, it is communism, fascism, and socialism. All three of which are antithetical to what American patriotism is all about.Comment
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No, I haven't run for office, but it's not because I'm staying safe. Seriously, I put myself in harms way more often than most, but I doubt doing so as a candidate in politics would be seen as such because I also would not be taken as a serious contender for office, and as such have little to lose in doing so. Sour grapes may be putting it mildly as far as I'm concerned. It's more like rabid bitterness, but again that's only me.
OK, so let me get this straight:
When we were at Save Our State, we were not allowed to criticize the leader. When the leader of Save Our State took it upon herself to lead the movement and dictate who was worthy or not, we were not allowed to criticize her in that role either. So now as a candidate for public office, we are again not to criticize her because it might prevent us from succeeding?
I might take this recent act of hers a bit more to heart if she had say, run for mayor, state legislator, or even stretch that into a Congressional seat. But Governor of the most populous, congested, financially troubled state of the union? No, I think it's ridiculous. I also wonder just how foolish the heirarchy of the party is in choosing her. She's ill qualified for even lower office, she has zero experience in working with other politicians, and a horrible track record insofar as being responsive to her previous constituents in our small world of activists. In addition, she filed personal bankruptcy about a year or so ago, and hasn't made any magnificent strides towards a comeback financially since then. Actually it looks as though she's still wallowing in indentured serfdom like the rest of us. Now don't get me wrong, I'm no stranger to the bankruptcy court either, although it's been a decade for me, I still haven't made a comeback either, but then again, I'm not asking voters to trust my financial prowess as a re-engineer of California's financial debacle. That just leaves the lesser effort of bringing attention to the problems of illegal immigration and a few others as the main point of her run for office. But guess what? They do shoot the messengers in politics. Especially when they have saddlebags the size of hers attached to the horse. If you think our scrutinizing her is unfair or out of bounds, just wait until the pro's in other parties who want to win start using her as a stepping stone, or a way to sidestep some real hard questions at a press conference. They're going dig up all of her statements, posts, emails and press releases, pour through them with real zeal, and have some of the juicier ones at the forefront of her campaign just to distract the voters from whatever attempt she makes to bring the cause to the forefront. Now the party must have known this in advance, I would hope so anyway, so the way I see this is that neither Chelene Nightingale or the Constitution party are taking this election seriously, and as such, the constitution party will not be taken seriously. Personally, I do not relish the thought of Chelene Nightingale carrying my message to the masses anymore. For one thing, a wacky messenger, should they not be shot prior to disgorging the message, will not be taken seriously. That will just further erode our overall attempt at credibility within the movement. Hell, I could go on for an hour about why she shouldn't lead the effort in the Gubernatorial race, but I'm just a lowly banned previous supporter who has a big axe to grind. But as a dedicated proven activist within the immigration law enforcement movement, I will say quite plainly that she is capable of doing much more harm to the movement than good, and has proven to me that it's all about her, and only a little about the cause.Comment
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