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  • Prop 8 they're at it again.

    By Nannette Miranda
    The group "Equality California," which led the fight against Proposition 8, says it will wait until 2012 to make another attempt at overturning the ban on gay marriage in California. Despite Wednesday's announcement, some supporters of same-sex marriage say they will still push for a ballot measure next year.
    After speaking with numerous campaign consultants, pollsters and major donors, a leading gay rights group says it's better to wait three years ask voters to repeal Proposition 8. However, the decision is splitting the gay community.
    By waiting until 2012 to ask voters to overturn the same-sex marriage ban, "Equality California" says it will give them the one thing they need the most right now: time. They say they need time to educate people, open offices in conservative areas like the Central Valley and Orange County. It also gives them time for the recession to pass to raise more money for an expensive campaign. The group also says it will allow for high schoolers to reach voting age; a demographic more sympathetic to their cause.
    "When we go back to the ballot, we feel that we should permanently win the freedom to marry. We don't want to have to go again and again and not be successful," said Alice Kessler, Equality California.
    Many in the gay community had pushed for a 2010 vote because of the momentum brought on by the passage of Proposition 8 last year, the constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriages.
    "I think there's a lot of disappointed people, and it won't surprise me at all if there is an effort to put this on the ballot anyway. There's no one person that gets to decide this," said Larry Levine, a professor of sexual orientation law at McGeorge School of Law.
    The "Courage Campaign" has already said it is moving forward with a 2010 initiative to allow same-sex marriages.
    Whichever year it is going to be, the award-winning campaign team that guided Prop 8 to victory is confident voters will protect traditional marriage.
    "They have yet to explain why the people of California, why 100 percent of the people of California, have to change their views on marriage in order to accommodate one or two percent of gay couples that want to get married," said Frank Schubert, "Yes on Prop 8" Campaign Manager.
    Supporters who want to qualify an initiative for the 2010 ballot will have to act fast. The suggested deadline to turn in an initiative to the attorney general's office is September 25.

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    Their strategy is the correct one. It's only a matter of time. The opposition to gay marriage is very much characterized by age difference. The younger are far less likely to disapprove of the notion of homosexual unions than baby boomers and older generations.

    Ironically, the candidacy of Barack Obama may have been the only thing that pushed Prop 8 past the finish line last year. As a result of his being on the Democratic ticket, more black and non-white voters went to the polls. Whites are far more statistically likely, as a group, to accept the concept of gay marriage. Hence, when people of color walked into the voting booths in unusually high numbers, they played a major role in getting Prop 8 passed.

    Homosexuality has become like divorce. The stigma that used to be attached to it in American society is quickly becoming a thing of the past. It's only a matter of time before gay marriage returns to our state; almost certainly in less than a decade.

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    • #3
      It will also give time for those old closet gays to die so maybe it will balance out any way. Actually doubt it will but a thought.

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      • #4
        I, too, think that it is a smart strategy to move this issue to the Presidential election in 2012, rather than 2010. With the growing dissatisfaction in the electorate over The One. The recalcitrant Congress that calls their constituents that are voicing their opposition to socialist health care "unAmerican". The anger of conservatives would smash any attempt to overturn Prop. 8.

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        • #5
          I voted on 8 the way I did not because I care who sticks what where among consenting adults in discreet privacy or of some pressing religious belief, but because I am very tired of obnoxious groups forcing themselves on me.

          Yeah, shove that where the sun don't shine.
          Last edited by ilbegone; 08-14-2009, 12:40 PM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by ilbegone
            I voted on 8 the way I did not because I care who sticks what where among consenting adults in discreet privacy or of some pressing religious belief, but because I am very tired of obnoxious groups forcing themselves on me.

            Yeah, shove that where the sun don't shine.
            That's exactly the same reason I voted as I did. I couldn't care less about who hooks up with who. But when people vote and they win, it should be respected.

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